Hi
1)
It is usually suggested that it is not meaningful to check the homoscedasticity assumption in single level logistic models because the outcome is binary, but is it meaningful to check homoscedasticity on the logodds scale? Probably the answer is still no, since one does not assume homoscedasticity at all, right?
2) Is homoscedasticity assumed for the second level variance?
I plotted “the standardised residual x fixed part prediction” for the second level, and wonder if it shows anything meaningful for you?
3) in terms of model assumptions, is the 95% residualrank plot used for anything specific? That is, more than checking some clusters are deviating from the mean estimate and warranting the need for a multilevel model.
Thanks in advance
homoscedasticity assumption in logistic models?
homoscedasticity assumption in logistic models?
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Re: homoscedasticity assumption in logistic models?
Dear adeldaoud,
Yes there is no level1 residual in the linear predictor of a twolevel randomintercept logistic regression and so we only assess the distributional assumption of the level2 random effect, namely that it is normally distributed and homoskedastic. You can assess the plausibility of the normality assumption by inspecting a histogram or quantilequantile plot of the predicted random effects. You can assess the homoskedasticity assumption by plotting the predicted random effects against the covariates.
Best wishes
George
Yes there is no level1 residual in the linear predictor of a twolevel randomintercept logistic regression and so we only assess the distributional assumption of the level2 random effect, namely that it is normally distributed and homoskedastic. You can assess the plausibility of the normality assumption by inspecting a histogram or quantilequantile plot of the predicted random effects. You can assess the homoskedasticity assumption by plotting the predicted random effects against the covariates.
Best wishes
George
Re: homoscedasticity assumption in logistic models?
Thanks George for the reply. So the “the standardised residual x fixed part prediction” in the Mlwin enviroment should show me this, right?
Best,
Adel
Best,
Adel
Re: homoscedasticity assumption in logistic models?
Hi, I am finding this post interesting as i am looking for testing for homoschedasticity for my 2 level model. I have a question concerning the plot indicated here, hope you can help:
"You can assess the homoskedasticity assumption by plotting the predicted random effects against the covariates."
When you say "against the covariates", do you mean I should take the average value by level 2 group, and plot those against predicted random effect? What should i take in case of a categorical covariate? Or, should i take some sort of predicted value?
thanks in advance.
"You can assess the homoskedasticity assumption by plotting the predicted random effects against the covariates."
When you say "against the covariates", do you mean I should take the average value by level 2 group, and plot those against predicted random effect? What should i take in case of a categorical covariate? Or, should i take some sort of predicted value?
thanks in advance.